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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution)
From: Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com>
Date: 10 Oct 2005 23:43:06 +0000
davids () webmaster com ("David Schwartz") writes:
My point is simply that the "your customers are getting more out of our network that our customers are" argument is bull. Your customers are paying you to carry their traffic over your network.
whenever you think you have a reasonable design, you can concept-test it for the internet by asking, "what if six million people did this?" i suspect that absent peering requirements, there would be a lot of WAN ISO-L2 and on-net ISO-L3 sold, a lot more ASN's on the hoof, and a bit less stability in the BGP core. since most of the transit ISO-L3 providers are also in the on-net ISO-L3 or WAN ISO-L2 (or both) business, the end result would be the same people getting paid the same amounts by the same other people, but called something else than what we call it now. maybe this would be better than "my network is bigger!", "no it ain't!", etc? -- Paul Vixie
Current thread:
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering), (continued)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering) Michael . Dillon (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering) Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering) William Allen Simpson (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 Contracts (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering) Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 07)
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) David Schwartz (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) Paul Vixie (Oct 09)
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) David Schwartz (Oct 10)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) William B. Norton (Oct 10)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering (philosophical solution) Paul Vixie (Oct 10)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Jay Adelson (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Joe Maimon (Oct 07)