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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
From: Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com>
Date: 09 Oct 2005 04:28:49 +0000
Take-away: Do not single home. ...so, CIDR was a bad idea, and we should push forward with one AS per end-site and a global routing table of 500 million entries?I think that's unnecessarily one dimensional. The needs of business to be connected in a reliable fashion are above and beyond being for or against CIDR. Rather, they are the requirements for the routing architecture that the Internet has yet to fulfill.
well, sure, my answer is only valid if pigs do not have rocket boosters. if you're going to talk about how fast pigs could fly if they had rocket boosters then i'm very interested but i consider it a change of subject.
Single homing is bad simply from a reliability standpoint, and the only true technological impediment to everyone multi-homing is cost and the routing architecture. Consider the ability of the average consumer to make use of WiFi to provide mutual backup connectivity to his neighbors with alternate last mile providers. As the cost goes to zero, everyone will want to multi-home.
yea, verily, that is so. but "do not single home" is not practical advice as of the date on this particular milk carton. unless you can do it without bgp. see http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=vixie+multihoming+without+bgp&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 if you're wondering how long we've been fiddling around with THAT tune here. -- Paul Vixie
Current thread:
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering, (continued)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering tony sarendal (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Golding (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Todd Vierling (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Senie (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering John Payne (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Paul Vixie (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Tony Li (Oct 07)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Paul Vixie (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 08)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Paul Vixie (Oct 08)
- OT: Connection restored between feuding Net providers Cogent/L3 Henry Linneweh (Oct 09)
- Re: OT: Connection restored between feuding Net providers Cogent/L3 Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 09)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Stephen J. Wilcox (Oct 09)
- How to multihome endusers [was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering] Peter Dambier (Oct 09)
- Re: How to multihome endusers [was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering] william(at)elan.net (Oct 09)
- Re: How to multihome endusers [was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering] Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 09)
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering David Schwartz (Oct 06)