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Re: multi homing pressure


From: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex () relcom net>
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 23:23:38 -0700


It is not true. Many tier-2 ISP specializes in very ghigh quality Internet
access, so mnasking problems of big ISP (who in reality never can provide
high quality Internet at all). Good example - Internap.

So, it is not about tier-1 vs tier-2, it is about ISP specialized on cheap
acvcess and ISP specialized on quality access. Is COGENT (for example only -
I have nothing against them) tier-1 ISP - may be; are they high quality
ISP - in NO WAY (they just provide bandwidth to nowhere without any clue).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Dupuy" <jdupuy-list () socket net>
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>; <nanog () merit edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: multi homing pressure




For the customer with an Internet "mission critical app", being tied
to a Tier 2 has it's own set of problems, which might actually be
worse than being tied to a Tier 1.

The key word is "might". In fact, I would posit that a Tier 2 with
multiply
redundant transit to all of the Tier 1s could theoretically have better
connectivity than an actual Tier 1. The Tier 2 transit provides
flexibility
that the transit-free Tier 1s do not have. Just my opinion.

Anyway, it has been my experience that most (but not all) of the customers
that want to "multihome" are _really_ wanting either: A. geographic/router
redundancy. or B. easy renumbering. Geographic redundancy can be done
within a single AS and IP block. They just don't know to ask it that way.
(And easy renumbering will eventually be solved with v6. Eventually.)

The demand for multi-homing might not be as great as suspected.

John



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