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Re: QoS for ADSL customers


From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:15:11 -0500 (EST)


On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Joe Shen wrote:
To Kim's situation, IP packet header based (or access
interface based) traffic classification is pratical.
If application based traffic classification is
required, tools from sandvine or packeteer may have to
be sitted between ERX1440 and Cisco7609. IMHO, ISP
network should NOT trust any TOS/DSCP set by their
customers; so, classifying and (re)tagging must be
done in PE or BRAS. On the other hand, anti-spoofing
configuration must be enabled in ERX1440 or 7609.
Anyway, I don't trust current router's ability on
content based traffic delivery.

The problem with waiting until the PE or BRAS to do the classification is
most access providers use traffic aggregation in the access network (e.g.
ATM/DSL, Cable, WiFi, etc).  This means the interfaces on the BRAS or PE
are oversubscribed and the access network interface will experience
inbound cell/frame drops.

If you don't trust the router's ability, imagine a dslam's ability to do
it at the ATM layer.

Some networks let users tag their traffic, other networks re-tag all
traffic according the network's policies.  At the moment it seems to be a
business decision.  But the result is users shouldn't expect unmangled
TOS/DSCP bits over the Internet.  Coordinating the IP layer QOS with the
access network/physical layer QOS is a bit of a challenge.


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