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Re: Wifi Security
From: Ross Hosman <rosshosman () yahoo com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 07:01:06 -0800 (PST)
--- "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net> wrote:
On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Ross Hosman wrote:So my question is pretty simple. You have allthese major companiessuch as google/earthlink/sprint/etc. building wifinetworks. Lets say Iwant to collect peoples information so I setup an APwith the same ssid asgoogle's ap so people connect to it and I log allof their traffic.Most people won't check beyond the ssid to look at themac address but eventhat could be spoofed. Is there anyway to verify acertain ap beyondmac/ssid, will there be in the future? How dothese companies plan tomitigate this threat or are they just going tohope consumers aresmart enough to figure it out?Why would you even need to set up an AP? Why not just sit and sniff traffic? Gets you the _exact_ same information. And why worry about Google, etc., when Starbucks and airports have been doing this for _years_? Lastly, most consumers are smart enough to know to use encryption (the little pad-lock in their browser). Some aren't. Changing the WiFi architecture is not going to save those who aren't.
-- TTFN, patrick
I have to disagree that most consumers are smart enough to use encryption. Most consumers are dumb as a brick when it comes to the internet and especially security. Take a look at the average AOL user and you'll see what I'm saying. Starbucks and t-mobile is a little bit different as these networks aren't concentrated. As we companies start covering entire cities I believe you could start seeing this as becoming a regular problem. __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Current thread:
- Wifi Security Ross Hosman (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Ross Hosman (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Stephen J. Wilcox (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Niels Bakker (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Christian Kuhtz (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Ross Hosman (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Stephen J. Wilcox (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Joel Jaeggli (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Niels Bakker (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Randy Bush (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Jim Popovitch (Nov 21)
- Re: Wifi Security Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 21)