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Re: Wifi Security


From: Ross Hosman <rosshosman () yahoo com>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 07:01:06 -0800 (PST)




--- "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net> wrote:


On Nov 21, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Ross Hosman wrote:

So my question is pretty simple. You have all
these major companies  
such
as google/earthlink/sprint/etc. building wifi
networks. Lets say I  
want
to collect peoples information so I setup an AP
with the same ssid as
google's ap so people connect to it and I log all
of their traffic.  
Most
people won't check beyond the ssid to look at the
mac address but even
that could be spoofed. Is there anyway to verify a
certain ap beyond
mac/ssid, will there be in the future? How do
these companies plan to
mitigate this threat or are they just going to
hope consumers are  
smart
enough to figure it out?

Why would you even need to set up an AP?  Why not
just sit and sniff  
traffic?  Gets you the _exact_ same information.

And why worry about Google, etc., when Starbucks and
airports have  
been doing this for _years_?

Lastly, most consumers are smart enough to know to
use encryption  
(the little pad-lock in their browser).  Some
aren't.  Changing the  
WiFi architecture is not going to save those who
aren't.


-- 
TTFN,
patrick

I have to disagree that most consumers are smart
enough to use encryption. Most consumers are dumb as a
brick when it comes to the internet and especially
security. Take a look at the average AOL user and
you'll see what I'm saying.

Starbucks and t-mobile is a little bit different as
these networks aren't concentrated. As we companies
start covering entire cities I believe you could start
seeing this as becoming a regular problem.





                
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