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Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:38:42 -0500 (EST)
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005, Leo Bicknell wrote:
"access the Internet", could it be more clear?
No, because there is no legal defintion of "the Internet." During the early days of the privitization of the Internet, you could not access www.pizzahut.com (on UUNET) from various universities (on NSFNET) because the universities wouldn't pay ANS for "CO+RE access" and the NSF wouldn't let UUNET send commercial traffic over the NSFNET. Were ANS and UUNET providing Internet access even though there were sites that couldn't exchange traffic between them? Which one had more claim to the term "Internet?" ANS because it supplied access to universities or UUNET because it supplied access to other commercial networks?
Have you tried to buy an HDTV recently? Would that really be an improvement?I think HDTV hardware is quite clear. I love my HDTV. But once again, it's the service providers who are the problem. My provider (who I will let be nameless for now) doesn't keep any cable cards locally, and has to send off to the national HDTV center to get one. They lock down their set top box to a single resolution, which is not the resolution of my TV, nor the resolution of the local broadcasters. They don't carry anything but the three local networks in HD. They are also losing my business as we type to another provider who offers a better service.
Gee, it appears the marketplace is working. Why aren't you hiring lawyers to sue the service provider if they aren't giving you what you think you should get with HDTV? Instead you are using your wallet to choose. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0156005972/104-3889928-7799121?v=glance Is your hardware HDTV, Full HDTV, Native HDTV, HDTV-Ready, Integrated HDTV, HDTV Monitor? The Consumer Electronics Association and FCC has been in full swing trying to keep up with the various names being used. Almost none of the consumer HDTV hardware sold in the USA today can actually do everything possible with HDTV, it does just a subset. Is there going to be a similar association or government agency involved in trying to keep up with all the different ways to describe what the "Internet" is or isn't. Are you going to like the definition they come up with? Are they going to define various subsets of the Internet, because the reality is in the terms and conditions of almost every ISP they say they aren't responsible for anything beyond their network.
Current thread:
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill], (continued)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 10)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 10)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 11)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Leo Bicknell (Nov 11)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Leo Bicknell (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Richard Cox (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Leo Bicknell (Nov 13)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 13)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Blaine Christian (Nov 14)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 14)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Steven M. Bellovin (Nov 14)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 14)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Blaine Christian (Nov 14)
- RE: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Michael Hallgren (Nov 14)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Jared Mauch (Nov 15)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Steven J. Sobol (Nov 17)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Jared Mauch (Nov 17)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Owen DeLong (Nov 15)