re: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a few years?

[Fred Heutte <aoxomoxoa () sunlightdata com>]

(1) There will be a market for independent ISPs as long CLECs
continue to let their customers enjoy poor service and unnecessary
restrictions. Bandwidth is a "commodity" and scales appropriately;
service is "service" and does not scale without a great deal
of management commitment, resources, money, attention
and abandonment of the cut-costs/low-bid mentality.

(2) This discussion is more appropriate to the ISP-CLEC list.

Wish I could be with you all in Seattle next week but work is
piling up so  . . . back to work/lurk mode . . .

phred

------ mail forwarded, original message follows ------

To: nanog () nanog org
From: Mbazan () onelegal com <Matt Bazan>
Subject: FW: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a few years?
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:13:23 -0700


yep, bryan brings up a good point too.  looks like the private dsl
reseller ship will soon be taking on more water and floundering yet
further.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Battle [mailto:brian () confluence com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:32 AM
To: Matt Bazan
Subject: RE: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a
few years?


You forgot to mention Verizon's Fios (fiber to the house) which will
definitely put smaller dsl resellers out of business, unless Verizon
gives them access to resell that as well.  15Mbs/2Mbs for $49.95 is
going to make even the cable operators scramble to increase bandwidth to
maintain customers.


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Bazan [mailto:Mbazan () onelegal com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:09 PM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a few
years?



why in the world would anyone want to purchase dsl from a private
reseller when i can get 4mb down 384 up from comcast for $25?  think you

dsl resellers out there are doomed.  in fact, just a matter of time
before most of you isps are down the toilet.  im reminded of the mom and

pop grocery store phenomenon that has now been replaced by the kohls,
a&p, whole foods etc.  of course there will always be niche markets but
this is less applicable for a pure commodity like bandwidth.  yeah, i
suppose you'll say something about value added services and such and you

may have a point but i doubt that will keep the ship afloat for long.