RE: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a few years?

["Matt Bazan" <Mbazan () onelegal com>]

bottom line is that in a few years everything will be virtualized and
cosolodation will rule the land.  there will be single turnkey solutions
for the end user / corporate environment that will be infinitely
configurable to meet the latest trends and needs.  there will be no use
for the small time 'innovator' or 'player' except in a purely academic
environment.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On 
> Behalf Of Mark D. Bodley
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:44 PM
> To: 'Stephen J. Wilcox'; Matt Bazan
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: RE: what will all you who work for private isp's be 
> doing in a few years?
>
>
>
> Matt, your questions seem extremely prejudiced to a 
> determined outcome. In my opinion resellers are in the long 
> run going to lose because of lack of tangible assets (there 
> is my Bias, on the table. I have my own facilities, and 
> equipment). However because pure resellers lack the 
> facilities they can be resellers(and often are) of whatever 
> the technology of the day is. Strangely, many resellers, grow 
> into facilities based carriers, but if they do not, then they 
> can always move to the next thing. If you sold ISDN, in the 
> 90's, and you knew how to walk someone through configuring 
> their pipeline, you were better than Bell (read PSI Net). If 
> you could accurately test, and deliver DSL, to a client 3-5 
> years ago, (read COVAD) you were better than Bell. In the 
> future, who knows what it will be, (my bet is wireless, and 
> we all cook like chickens in a Showtime rotisserie) the 
> prevailing trait of those that have been in this for a long 
> time is adaptation. There was a day when selling access off 
> an ISDN connection was doable. I got out of the straight 
> access market in the late 90's. I provide, and resell 
> connectivity, with static routes to applications I host, or 
> maintain. Hopefully the straight resellers of today will be 
> selling microwave, or implant connectivity, or whatever in a 
> few years. Bottom-line public or not, Mom, and Pop, or not no 
> matter what you do in this business you have to be ready to 
> adapt. If you are huge and don't catch the next wave you 
> could be just as dead as the smaller guys that don't catch that next
> wave.   
>
>
> Mark D. Bodley
> President
> Cyrix Systems
> m () cyrixsys com
> www.cyrixsys.com
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On 
> Behalf Of Stephen J. Wilcox
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:12 PM
> To: Matt Bazan
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: Re: what will all you who work for private isp's be 
> doing in a few years?
>
>
> On Wed, 11 May 2005, Matt Bazan wrote:
>
> > why in the world would anyone want to purchase dsl from a private
> > reseller when i can get 4mb down 384 up from comcast for 
> $25?  think 
> > you dsl resellers out there are doomed.  in fact, just a matter of 
> > time before most of you isps are down the toilet.  im 
> reminded of the 
> > mom and pop grocery store phenomenon that has now been 
> replaced by the 
> > kohls, a&p, whole foods etc.  of course there will always be niche 
> > markets but this is less applicable for a pure commodity like 
> > bandwidth.  yeah, i suppose you'll say something about value added 
> > services and such and you may have a point but i doubt that 
> will keep the
> ship afloat for long.
>
> Matt,
>  first whats your affiliation and experience in this arena? That these
> markets exist and more profitably so than the large carriers 
> suggest the
> problems you are raising dont exist.
>
> What is your theory based on, you only cite your personal 
> preference to buy
> from Comcast which cannot be said to be indicative of the 
> market. Grocery
> stores are not comparable, this is a different industry and different
> market. Also bandwidth is not a pure commodity, and DSL is not pure
> bandwidth.
>
> I think your argument is at best uninformed, at worst 
> non-existent.. you
> need to provide some references, examples, figures, 
> whatever.. else this is
> little more than trolling.
>
> Steve