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Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based)
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () darkwing uoregon edu>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:26:45 -0700 (PDT)
On Wed, 4 May 2005, Luke Parrish wrote:
Andrew, traceroute is an effective tool is measuring roundtrip in ms format.
packets sent to a router are typically processed differently and with different priority then packets forwarded through it. This makes traceroute fairly unreliable.
I measure acceptable performance on the basis of the needs of my applications. In general I need <= 100ms rtt and little or no re-ordering to the counterstrike hl2 servers I play on. providers that can't deliver that reliably don't get my business.
I am not looking for download speeds or standards, I have already established those. Yes I agree, traceroute is not an effective tool for measuring download speeds.thanks, luke At 11:18 AM 5/4/2005, Andrew Lee wrote:Traceroute is not an effective measurement of performance. Due to the way routing devices process the packets it receives, it is possible for the latency that appears in a traceroute is far higher than the latency of traffic traversing that device.Luke Parrish wrote:My email was confusing since I said the word speed, I would like to ms roundtrip for the following:*1. CPE to first layer 3 hop 2. CPE to first layer 3 upstream hop 3. CPE to layer 3 exit point of upstream *Example: Trace route to www.yahoo.com <http://www.yahoo.com/>1. 10.10.10.1 (CPE) 1ms 2. 10.10.10.254 (DSLAM)(cte) 21ms*(first layer 3 hop) *3. 11.1.1.1 (Router)(cte) 24ms 4. 5.5.1.3 (upstream interface)(level3) 68ms*(first layer 3 upstream hop)*5. 5.4.3.2 (exit point of upstream)(handoff from level3 to at&t) 94ms *(layer 3 exit point of upstream) *Those ms values are what I am curious about. What are other providers seeing and what are, in your opinion, acceptable ms times for a home 1.5M dsl user...Luke At 10:40 AM 5/4/2005, Luke Parrish wrote:Does anyone have a good resource for acceptable speeds for home DSL customers?I would like to see acceptable speeds from the customer CPE to the first layer 3 hop, the hop to the upstream and the hop that leaves the upstream network.Thanks luke Luke Parrish Centurytel Internet Operations 318-330-6661Luke Parrish Centurytel Internet Operations 318-330-6661Luke Parrish Centurytel Internet Operations 318-330-6661
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Current thread:
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based), (continued)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Peter Corlett (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Luke Parrish (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Hank Nussbacher (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Luke Parrish (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Andrew Lee (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Luke Parrish (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Florian Weimer (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Luke Parrish (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Valdis . Kletnieks (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Petri Helenius (May 05)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Andrew Lee (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Peter Corlett (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Joel Jaeggli (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Joe Maimon (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Barney Wolff (May 04)
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- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Barney Wolff (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Andy Johnson (May 04)
- Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based) Luke Parrish (May 04)