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Re: Vonage Selects TCS For VoIP E911 Service
From: Brad Knowles <brad () stop mail-abuse org>
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:27:24 +0200
At 12:34 PM +0200 2005-07-20, Andre Oppermann wrote:
So my guess is that the real drivers are the law enforcement agencies wanting to get better tracking abilities. Whether they get out of deal what they are hoping for remains to be seen. Not that they will tell us anyway.
Actually, the FBI has been at least somewhat open with their disappointment of carrier support for position-enhanced information and compliance with CALEA. I've seen recent articles in the press that has made this obvious. It seems that the problem is that too many people are holding onto their old phones, and the networks which selected GPS as their solution aren't getting enough uptake fast enough on the new position-enhanced models.
Contrary to my previous post, Nextel appears to be one of the carriers that selected GPS, and Verizon and Sprint appear to have done the same. AT&T, Cingular, and T-Mobile appear to have gone the tower triangulation route.
But as far as E911 is concerned, the problem appears that many of the emergency services providers still aren't equipped with the necessary equipment -- the article at <http://tinyurl.com/dmzdq> is a little old, but the situation was so bad at the time that I can't imagine the entire world has been turned around since.
The whole CALEA/E911 issue was known a long time back. Even _Wired_ picked up on it in early 1998, in the article at <http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,9502,00.html>, or <http://www.danbrown.com/secrets/digital_fortress/cell_phones.html>. And the interaction between VOIP, E911, and CALEA is still getting some traction (see <http://www.vonmag.com/issue/2005/jul/features/you_will_conform.htm>).
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