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RE: netblazer Was: baiting


From: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan () verisign com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:13:23 -0500


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E.Seastrom [mailto:rs () seastrom com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:11 AM
To: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
Cc: Hannigan, Martin; wsimpson () greendragon com; nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: netblazer Was: baiting



Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine <brunner () nic-naa net> writes:

In this period of time, the White Knights built the InterOp 
shownets and
we had comparative access to quite a lot of vendor product, 
and know that
the red buttons on Wellfleets were correctly positioned on 
the front, for
easy access. We used NetBlazers for dial-up outbound (we 
were topologically
quite diverse by '91, our last show in the San Jose 
facility) and I don't
recall anything ... resembling the behavior that I could 
characterize as
POS like function.

My recollection of that show was "T-1 to BARRnet", not
bonded-Netblazer-dialout, but I didn't "work the show" until the
following spring, so my recollection could be at fault.

I wouldn't characterize Netblazers as being particularly cruddy
compared to other options available at the time.  Remember that this
was the era of the Cisco ASM, the Encore/Xylogics Annex (Wellfleet
hadn't changed their name to Bay yet, much less bought the Annex
product line), some nasty 3com terminal server of which my memory has
thankfully purged most details and the gone but not lamented Cisco
TRouter.  The Netblazers worked pretty darned well when plugged into
Telebit modems.  Third party modems, well, there were a lot of knobs
you could twist, and not the best in the way of documentation on what
to do with 'em.

Based on my experience with them, I'm quite sure they were fabulous
devices capable of being configured in the field to do just about
anything, if you had the level of familiarity with their internals
that someone who worked QA for them would have had.

There really wasn't any good modem, IMHO, back then. They were all 
painful to configure and make work reliably. Once the "net" revolution
started it still took years to get modems working reliably.

In '98 I know that the Max TNT was only getting about 85% call completion
across_the_board. Call completion only takes into account the completed
handshake. Then you dealt with code issues after you got them to at least
connect.

-M< 


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