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Root vs TLD (was Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots?)
From: Alex Bligh <alex () alex org uk>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:17:04 +0000
--On 16 January 2005 15:18 -0500 William Allen Simpson <wsimpson () greendragon com> wrote:
While the Association of Trustworthy ISPs idea has some merit, we've not been too successful in self-organizing lately. ISP/C? At the moment, I'm concerned whether we have trustworthy TLD operators.
Please distinguish (as I'm sure you are, but the subject line and, it seems some replying aren't) between Root Servers on the one hand, and TLD operators and the policy controlling them on the other. You may or may not think Verisign as registry is blameless / disreputable and to blame for this incident. You may or may not think the gaining/losing registrars are blameless / disreputable for this incident. Tou may or may not think that ICANN gTLD policy is blameless / disreputable for this incident. What it has nothing to do with, however, is *root* policy (as in how the root servers are operated and what goes in them) - it's gTLD policy. There are plenty of things in the root other than gTLDs, and even policy variation for gTLDs. Arguing for alternative roots is recipe for chaos and less protection for existing registrants. Arguing for policy changes (or even operator changes) within the TLD you find fault with is fair game. To illustrate the point, .uk has (a) direct contracts between registry and registrant (even when registered through a registrar), and (b) registrar<->registar moves done by push (either by the losing registrar or failing that by the registrant) rather than by pull. I make no claim it is perfect, and am not even here going to argue it's superior. I will, however, argue that the failure modes are substantially different. Do not attempt to apply the same medicine to diverse illnesses! (more details at http://www.nominet.org.uk for those interested) Alex
Current thread:
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots?, (continued)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Jan 19)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Chris Adams (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? William Allen Simpson (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Sean Donelan (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Joshua Brady (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 16)
- Root vs TLD (was Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots?) Alex Bligh (Jan 17)
- Re: Root vs TLD (was Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots?) Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Jan 17)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? Hannigan, Martin (Jan 16)
- Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots? William Allen Simpson (Jan 17)