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Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent
From: Patrick W Gilmore <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:11:56 -0400
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 11:28:00AM -0400, dgolding () gmu edu wrote:
Its easy to accuse people of criminality - that's what you just did. Howabout some proof? Cogent's ratios are very very bad. That's why some people don't likepeering with them. Being sent to sales is a common, if regretable tacticin depeering. However, dealing with Cogent on peering matters is incredibly unpleasant. I can understand networks and peering coordinators feeling that it just isn't worth it.
Ratio problems can be solved without hurting customers. Time and time again people use excuses - and most of them really are just excuses - to depeer people. Feel free, your network, your choice.
However, as a customer of many big networks, we get to choose too. And we think we will stop choosing people who don't play nice with others.
FT can claim "we saw their prefixes through Verio". Cogent can claim it was FT's "unilateral decision". Who cares? End of day, both networks are disconnected from a significant fraction of the Internet.
The point of the INTERnet is INTERconnectivity. Not really that hard, people.
-- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Jonas Frey (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent william(at)elan.net (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Jonas Frey (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Alexander Koch (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Fredy Kuenzler (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Patrick W Gilmore (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Steve Gibbard (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Daniel Senie (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Alexander Koch (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Patrick W Gilmore (Apr 14)
- Partial Transit (was Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent) Deepak Jain (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 15)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 14)
- RE: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent Neil J. McRae (Apr 14)
- Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent william(at)elan.net (Apr 14)