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Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net
From: Douglas Otis <dotis () mail-abuse org>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:09:22 -0700
On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 13:01, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:Unless your connection is permenent, with a permanent static ip, you should not be *directly* sending out mail. The very nature of dynamic ips implies that even if a single subscriber gets infected, you have no guarantee YOU won't wind up with that ip next.As I said, this is DSL, which to me implies always on. Each DSLAM port only allows one IP address, this is set statically. The customer has a static IP address assigned to him/her, which never changes over time. No DHCP, nothing dynamic what so ever. If you want to make yourself unreachable to one of our customers you blacklist their IP which is always the same. Simple. Now, how do we make the world understand this?
When this customer discontinues services, would you want to reuse this address? If your network was (ab)used sending spam, then the next customer may find this address unusable and you would need to contact a few hundred blacklists in an attempt to rehabilitate the address. As a prophylactic measure, Port 25 is blocked or transparently intercepted to monitor the network via error logs. For external mail submissions, Port 587 would be recommended. There is an overview of this at: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hutzler-spamops-01.txt -Doug
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- FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Daniel Golding (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Daniel Senie (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Steven Champeon (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Mikael Abrahamsson (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Joe Provo (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Allan Poindexter (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Brian Wallingford (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Steven Champeon (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Allan Poindexter (Sep 22)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Daniel Senie (Sep 21)
- FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Daniel Golding (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Mikael Abrahamsson (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Douglas Otis (Sep 21)
- port 25 blocking [Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net] Mikael Abrahamsson (Sep 21)
- Re: port 25 blocking [Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net] Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 21)
- Re: port 25 blocking [Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net] Douglas Otis (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Douglas Otis (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Steven Champeon (Sep 21)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Lars-Johan Liman (Sep 22)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Steven Champeon (Sep 22)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Lars-Johan Liman (Sep 23)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Paul Wouters (Sep 23)
- Re: FW: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net Randy Bush (Sep 23)