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Re: 30 Gmail Invites


From: Robert Bonomi <bonomi () mail r-bonomi com>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 23:12:14 -0500 (CDT)


From owner-nanog () merit edu  Sat Sep 11 21:58:47 2004
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () research att com>
To: Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com>
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: 30 Gmail Invites 
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:54:16 -0400


In message <g38ybgi5nd.fsf () sa vix com>, Paul Vixie writes:

i still can't understand why anyone would want a gmail account, free or not.

not just "anyone on nanog".  anyone, anywhere, ever.  the reasons "why not"
are compelling enough.  but there are no counterbalancing reasons "why to",
either compelling or otherwise.

I agree.  The privacy implications are *really* scary.  (And they're 
sufficiently worse for non-subscribers that I've contemplated blocking 
gmail-bound messages from my (personal) systems.)

              --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb


From owner-nanog () merit edu  Sat Sep 11 21:58:47 2004
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () research att com>
To: Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com>
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: 30 Gmail Invites 
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:54:16 -0400


In message <g38ybgi5nd.fsf () sa vix com>, Paul Vixie writes:

i still can't understand why anyone would want a gmail account, free or not.

not just "anyone on nanog".  anyone, anywhere, ever.  the reasons "why not"
are compelling enough.  but there are no counterbalancing reasons "why to",
either compelling or otherwise.

I agree.  The privacy implications are *really* scary.  (And they're 
sufficiently worse for non-subscribers that I've contemplated blocking 
gmail-bound messages from my (personal) systems.)

While we're on  _that_ subject, what about Postini, or Brightmail, or -any-
other big provider (e.g. SBC/Yahoo) that handles mail for multiple 'client'
domains?

Every one of those folks also reads and analyzes everybody's incoming mail,
including correlating it with mail sent to other destination on their systems.
AND correlating source (IP address and/or email address) with content.


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