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Re: ISP Policies
From: Stefan Mink <mink () schlund net>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:30:29 +0200
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 05:10:21AM +0000, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
I'm not a router guy (routing atleast), but perhaps there are performance problems inside an ASN along a path which you connect to other places? So you might lengthen paths through/to that ASN to force traffic across another ASN's direct connection which is less problematic? Or, you just don't want to send traffic through Bill Manning's ASN because you dislike his hawiian T-Shirt Policy? There are probably a few hundred reasosn why you'd avoid an ASN... In general though I'd think that like Michel said: "It's a pain and its doing something that bgp should do for you without lots of messing about"
choosing a route whose AS path doesn't contain an AS is no garantee that packets won't flow through that AS nevertheless. Forwarding is being done hop-by-hop. Examples for that szenario are * more specifics that aren't distributed globally * broken/complicated routing setups where a router chooses a route it got via IBGP and where on the path to the corresponding nexthop another router decides to rather use his own route (e.g. a router chooses his own route due to step "external vs. internal" in the BGP decision process, but the original decision was based on lowest router id) This can happen in not-full-mesh environments, e.g. with route reflector setups... I use the AS-path rather to grab chunks of prefixes (e.g. all routes via ASxyz) to do loadbalancing over transit providers whose announcements look so similar that the decision is only based on lowest router id of the IBGP speaker. I know this can be "somewhat solved" via multi-path bgp but there are other issues with that (fib size, multiple exit points behind one route-reflector etc)... tschuess Stefan -- Stefan Mink, Schlund+Partner AG (AS 8560) Primary key fingerprint: 389E 5DC9 751F A6EB B974 DC3F 7A1B CF62 F0D4 D2BA
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- ISP Policies Tulip Rasputin (Sep 08)
- Re: ISP Policies bmanning (Sep 08)
- Re: ISP Policies Tulip Rasputin (Sep 08)
- Re: ISP Policies Jeff Kell (Sep 08)
- Re: ISP Policies Peter Wohlers (Sep 09)
- Re: ISP Policies Tulip Rasputin (Sep 08)
- Re: ISP Policies william(at)elan.net (Sep 08)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: ISP Policies Michel Py (Sep 08)
- RE: ISP Policies Christopher L. Morrow (Sep 08)
- Re: ISP Policies Tulip Rasputin (Sep 08)
- Re: ISP Policies Howard C. Berkowitz (Sep 09)
- Re: ISP Policies Stefan Mink (Sep 10)
- RE: ISP Policies Christopher L. Morrow (Sep 08)
- Re: ISP Policies bmanning (Sep 08)
- RE: ISP Policies Michel Py (Sep 08)
- Re: ISP Policies Rohit Gupta (Sep 09)
- Re: ISP Policies James (Sep 09)
- Re: ISP Policies Edward B. Dreger (Sep 12)
- Re: Re: ISP Policies Rohit Gupta (Sep 09)