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RE: Best way to get of Bogon list?


From: "Barry Raveendran Greene" <bgreene () cisco com>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:04:28 -0800


 
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If someone will lend me appropriate /24's, I'll copy 
69box.atlantic.net into 70box, 71box, etc. and come up with a
large  (fairly comprehensive) list of IPs behind broken bogon
filters. 

http://puck.nether.net/~jared/papers/69-paper.html

      I can rewrite this slightly and post it on slashdot and 
other places again..

I think it would be useful. The "Bogon Team" implemented several
changes after 69/8 to make "change management" easier. This included
maintain objects at Merit RADB, RIPE NCC RADB, and a way to track via
DNS (see the details on http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html).

Of course the biggest service CYRMU added to help people with "change
management" was the Bogon Route Server
(http://www.cymru.com/BGP/bogon-rs.html).

So with all these "change management" tools done for the operations
community, it looks like we still need some "policing" service. Note
from mine and Hank's "CIDR Police" Experiment, we know that have a
"list of shame" is not effective. The only way it works is if you
have people who act as 'police,' use the list of shame, and knock on
people's door. 90% of the time, people eventually respond and make
the changes. But the impact only remains as long as you have people
to go knocking on the doors.







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