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Re: handling ddos attacks


From: Vincent Gillet - Opentransit <vgi () zoreil com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:53:54 +0200


jared () puck nether net disait :


On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 11:52:01AM -0700, Mark Kent wrote:

I've been trying to find out what the current BCP is for handling ddos
attacks.  Mostly what I find is material about how to be a good
net.citizen (we already are), how to tune a kernel to better withstand
a syn flood, router stuff you can do to protect hosts behind it, how
to track the attack back to the source, how to determine the nature of
the traffic, etc.

But I don't care about most of that.  I care that a gazillion
pps are crushing our border routers (7206/npe-g1).

Other than getting bigger routers, is it still the case that the best
we can do is identify the target IP (with netflow, for example) and
have upstreams blackhole it?

      or acl it.

      some providers offer blackhole services where you can inject
a route to them via bgp over the same session (with communities) or
over a different session that just takes blackhole routes..

      that can be used by you to cause them to null0/discard the
traffic within their network automatically..

At last Ripe meeting, i made a presentation about the way France Telecom
is handling DDOS attack :

        http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/eof.html#nocexp

Slides at

        http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/ripe48-eof-gillet.pdf

We presented our practice from a NOC perspective (ACL, blackhole, sinkhole,
netflow, sample, ... etc) and our next steps.

We proposed to give this presentation at coming Nanog, but we were not
so succesfull. Next nanog meeting maybe ...

Vincent.


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