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Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?
From: jlewis () lewis org
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:42:53 -0500 (EST)
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
There are several blacklists that clearly want more from the ISP than an explanation that the offendors are being/were removed... one good example is 'spews'.
What do you think spews wants? My experience with them has been that that's pretty much the only thing that will satisfy them. I have had customer IPs in spews, and got them removed. "I've" also been collateral damage (at a consulting client's site), which sucks, but that's the stick spews wields. In most cases, that's encouragement enough for a provider to clean up their network or keep it from becoming a mess. Sometimes it's not.
As was pointed out to me by a co-worker: "Linux is not anymore inherently secure than anyother OS." The difference really comes in the administration of the pee cee. So, would upgrading joe-random-user to Linux really make things better for them? (or us?) That is not clear at all at this point.
That's an argument for another list...but the short answer is no, giving JRU who knows nothing about Linux a default install, especially a popular one, say Red Hat, is not much, if any, better. They won't maintain it. It will be hacked. At least it probably won't be done with and then participate in email viruses. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis *jlewis () lewis org*| I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
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