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Re: [Fwd: [IP] Feds: VoIP a potential haven for terrorists]
From: Scott Francis <darkuncle () darkuncle net>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:40:50 -0700
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 08:25:15PM -0700, randy () psg com said:
they don't need more surveillance capabilities as much as they need to better utilize what they've already got. More laws aren't the answer to lack of success enforcing what's already on the books.We should not be building surveillance technology into standards. Law enforcement was not supposed to be easy. Where it is easy, it's called a police state. -- Jeff Schiller
"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state." -- Bruce Schneier Amen on both counts; couldn't agree with either quote more. -- Scott Francis | darkuncle(at)darkuncle(dot)net | 0x5537F527 The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer
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