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Re: "Default" Internet Service


From: Adi Linden <adil () adis on ca>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:57:21 -0500 (CDT)


It's not crap.  Infected machines are no more the fault of the internet than
junkmail in your mailbox is the fault of the post office.  There's literally
no difference to the model.  The post office delivers mail that is addressed
to you.  They don't care if it's junk mail or not.  They deliver it.

So what about little envelopes with white powder? Does the post office 
still have an obligation to deliver it or should they be concerned about 
the welfare of their customers? Perhaps they should insist that customers 
are properly vaccinated....

Point I am making is that the post office is not responsible and/or liable 
for the content of the packages they deliver. However, if they deliver 
packages that are obviously visibly dangerous to the recipient they have 
an obligation to investigate and not deliver the package. 

Most residential ISPs get paid the same whether the customer spews
abuse or not.  Their costs go up some when they get abuse complaints
and when abuse starts using more bandwidth, so, for the most part, most
residential ISPs have no incentive to support abuse, but, not enough
incentive to pay to staff an abuse department sufficiently to be truly
responsive.  Further, most abuse departments don't get enough support
from management when the sales and marketing departments come whining
about how much revenue that abusing customer produces each month.
This is one of the unfortunate realities of a free-market economy.  It
doesn't always tie profit to doing the right thing, and, it favors
short-term thinking over long-term planning.

Who do you suppose pays for the abuse department staff? Those are 
operational costs passed on to all customers. If increasing abuse results 
in increasing staff, hopefully eventually, these cost will most likely be 
passed on to all customer. It would be nice to see per incident billing so 
only offenders and repeat offenders pay. I doubt that'll happen (just a 
gut feeling, no other justification).

Adi


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