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Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses
From: Bob Snyder <rsnyder () toontown erial nj us>
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:41:45 -0500
Matthew Crocker wrote:
Search the archives, Comcast and other cable/DSL providers use the 10/8 for their infrastructure. The Internet itself doesn't need to be Internet routable. Only the edges need to be routable. It is common practice to use RFC1918 address space inside the network. Companies like Sprint and Verio use 'real' IPs but don't announce them to their peers on customer edge routes.
Which (as discussed previously) breaks things like Path MTU Discovery, traceroute, and other things that depend on the router sending back ICMP packets to the sender if any ISP along the return path (properly) filters RFC1918 address space as being bogus. You can use RFC1918 space on any device that really has no need to communicate with the outside world, but generally, un-NAT'ed routers don't qualify for this, at least on their transit interfaces.
I believe Comcast (and I'm going only on my experience as a customer) is or has moved from RFC1918 space to routable IP space for their routers, at least on interfaces I've been doing traceroutes through.
Bob
Current thread:
- Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Brian (nanog-list) (Feb 02)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Jonas Frey (Probe Networks) (Feb 02)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Matthew Crocker (Feb 02)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Matthew Crocker (Feb 02)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Bob Snyder (Feb 02)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Rubens Kuhl Jr. (Feb 02)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Pekka Savola (Feb 02)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Vincent Gillet - Opentransit (Feb 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Michael . Dillon (Feb 03)
- RE: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Terry Baranski (Feb 03)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses bill (Feb 03)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Petri Helenius (Feb 03)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses bill (Feb 03)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Petri Helenius (Feb 03)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Niels Bakker (Feb 03)
- RE: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Terry Baranski (Feb 03)
- Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses Jonas Frey (Probe Networks) (Feb 02)