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Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers
From: Rob Pickering <rob () pickering org>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:59:06 +0000
--On 13 February 2004 09:27 -0500 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
Yeeee-Haw! A return to the Old West of bangbaths and pathalias. No thanks.
That's absolutely the issue with emerging resignation to "e-mail peering" and the like being the only solution to the spam problem.
Folks who've been around long enough to remember UUCP maps or ADMD=/PRMD= know how huge the cost and support overhead of unreliability per e-mail sent is relative to SMTP delivery.
Before we drop into that particular trap I'd like to think that one more attempt could be made at using PKI to do MTA identification.
Maybe I'm a dreamer, but a world in which I only accept mail from MTA's that present a certificate from a CA I trust seems way better than one where I need an offline contract with a necessarily few people, and the world has to work out how to reach me through them.
This won't stop spam at all levels, but neither will e-mail peering as it will still be possible to inject SPAM into a provider's network and therefore get it transited through their peering links. It's much easier to kill a black-hat or just careless MTA by locally blacklisting an individual public key, CN=, O=, or even C= if I'm minded to.
-- Rob.
Current thread:
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers, (continued)
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Michael . Dillon (Feb 12)
- RE: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Dan Ellis (Feb 12)
- RE: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Alexander Kiwerski (Feb 12)
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Miquel van Smoorenburg (Feb 12)
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Lou Katz (Feb 12)
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Alex Bligh (Feb 12)
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 12)
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Alex Bligh (Feb 13)
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Lou Katz (Feb 12)
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 13)
- Re: SMTP authentication for broadband providers Rob Pickering (Feb 13)
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- Re: Open, anonymous services and dealing with abuse Daniel Reed (Feb 16)
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- Re: Open, anonymous services and dealing with abuse Daniel Reed (Feb 17)
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