Re: Definition of P2P (was Feinstein)

[Dave Dennis <dmd () speakeasy org>]

With bots that were widely available at the time, yes.

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Bora Akyol wrote:

> Sorry, was it possible to search for a file from > millions of storage
> nodes
> in IRC?
>
> Bora
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Dennis [mailto:dmd () speakeasy org]
> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:04 PM
> > To: Bora Akyol
> > Cc: 'Martin J. Levy'; 'Sean Donelan'; nanog () merit edu
> > Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the
> > Benefits of P2P
> >
> >
> > /dcc send <nick> filename
> >
> > peer to peer sharing, on irc, since 1991.
> >
> > Napster simply implemented the IRC protocol's DCC function,
> > with a better command set / GUI.
> >
> >
> >
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> > + Dave Dennis
> > + Seattle, WA
> > + dmd () speakeasy org
> > + http://www.dmdennis.com
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> >
> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Bora Akyol wrote:
> >
> > > I think we need to define what P2P is before we can address this.
> > >
> > > IMHO, P2P started with NAPSTER, yes before that there was
> > WWW, gopher,
> > > ftp,
> > > files by email, bitnet, x/y/z modem, bbs  (dating myself here),
> > > but the large scale bandwidth usage that is seen started
> > with NAPSTER.
> > > P2P I would define as distributed file sharing with
> > database like search
> > > capabilities. If you define it in this context, the bandwidth
> > > characteristics of P2P is a lot closer (but on a higher
> > scale) than the
> > > bandwidth characteristics of a traditional web surfer.
> > Hence, ADSL in
> > > particular and asymmetric data comm in general hamper P2P.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bora
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Martin J. Levy [mailto:mahtin () mahtin com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:13 PM
> > > > To: Sean Donelan
> > > > Cc: Bora Akyol; nanog () merit edu
> > > > Subject: RE: Senator Diane Feinstein Wants to know about the
> > > > Benefits of P2P
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sean,
> > > >
> > > > > There were lots of FTP mirrors around.
> > > > > Every Sun workstation could have a Anonymous FTP.  Of
> > > > course, the problem
> > > > > was every Sun workstation could be an Anonymous FTP :-)
> > > >
> > > > ... but you forgot to mention that filtering and firewalls
> > > > and NAT were not in common use, hence everywhere was
> > > > accessible from everywhere.  P2P was all there was.
> > > >
> > > > Martin