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Re: Lazy network operators
From: John Curran <jcurran () istaff org>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:56:55 -0400
At 11:15 PM +0200 4/13/04, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: This approach has two main advantages over filtering port 25: 1. People can still talk to unlisted SMTP hosts if they feel they have a good reason to do so (ie, I get >to deliver messages directly to my server from home rather than being forced to use my service >provider's which may or may not work)
You're right... Rather than simply having you tell your provider that you're responsible and having port 25 outward opened up, the freedom for anyone to send to port 25 on an ad-hoc basis like we have today is a better idea. Today's spam isn't a problem; everything's working as designed.
The good news is that the IETF is now starting work on this, so expect results in two or three years.
Great idea: here's a case where we need less connectivity and better operational practices, but rather than take that task on, we should do more protocol work. The reality is that the vast majority of email is handed off to a designated mail relay (whether we're talking about consumer connections or office environments), and if we actually configured connectivity in this matter, there wouldn't be a problem. /John
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- Re: Abuse mail boxese (was Re: Lazy network operators), (continued)
- Re: Abuse mail boxese (was Re: Lazy network operators) J.D. Falk (Apr 12)
- Re: Lazy network operators Paul Vixie (Apr 12)
- Re: Lazy network operators E.B. Dreger (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators George William Herbert (Apr 10)
- Re: Lazy network operators John Curran (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Stephen J. Wilcox (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators John Curran (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Sean Donelan (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Andrew - Supernews (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators John Curran (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Randy Bush (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Christopher L. Morrow (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Randy Bush (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Christopher L. Morrow (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Robert E. Seastrom (Apr 14)
- Routing issues Simon Brilus (Apr 14)
- Re: Routing issues Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 14)
- Re: Routing issues Rubens Kuhl Jr. (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Stephen J. Wilcox (Apr 13)
- Re: Routing issues Nick Feamster (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 13)