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Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen () sprunk org>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:06:36 -0500
Thus spake "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <suresh () outblaze com>
There is another class of people who route calls out from the USA to India (or elsewhere) using VOIP, terminate the calls at an unauthorized (that is, not run by a licensed telco) exchange in india, and then route the calls out through the local pstn or mobile network. Quite a few of the "call $asian_country for cheap" phone cards you find at ethnic grocery stores seem to work on these lines. The local telco doesn't see a red cent of any settlement charges when this happens. Local telcos are, of course, all against this, and use any and every excuse to get these exchanges busted - a procedure that typically involves having the local police raid the exchange.
One method that makes raids difficult is that the landing site for these calls is often a satellite dish (for the international side) combined with GSM phones (for the local side). Sure, you can cut off the GSM phones one-by-one, but new ones are cheap enough that it's like a game of whack-a-mole. S Stephen Sprunk "Stupid people surround themselves with smart CCIE #3723 people. Smart people surround themselves with K5SSS smart people who disagree with them." --Aaron Sorkin
Current thread:
- Re: Lazy network operators, (continued)
- Re: Lazy network operators Sean Donelan (Apr 10)
- Re: Lazy network operators Dan Hollis (Apr 10)
- Re: Lazy network operators Jeff Workman (Apr 10)
- Re: Lazy network operators Scott Call (Apr 10)
- TTY phone fraud and abuse Sean Donelan (Apr 10)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Scott Call (Apr 10)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Sean Donelan (Apr 11)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 11)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 11)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 11)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Stephen Sprunk (Apr 11)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 12)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 12)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Niels Bakker (Apr 12)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Patrick W . Gilmore (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Sean Donelan (Apr 10)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Patrick W . Gilmore (Apr 14)
- Re: TTY phone fraud and abuse Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Apr 15)
- Re: Lazy network operators Paul Vixie (Apr 11)
- abuse standards & consumer reports William Allen Simpson (Apr 11)
- Re: abuse standards & consumer reports Paul Vixie (Apr 11)
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