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RE: What were we saying about edge filtering?


From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris () UU NET>
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:46:21 +0000 (GMT)




On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Matt Ploessel wrote:

With the exception of RPC1918 reserved address space (note the previous
rootserver query problem), what amount of bogus sourced traffic is
stopped by bogons on a major backbone? I would say _alot_ of DDoS
traffic, however how hard is it for a DDoS client to know the bogon ip
ranges and skip them? I'm a very strong supporter of the bogons and
especially the bogons route servers without a doubt, but possibly null
route RFC1918 traffic to loopbackX(no ip unreachable, ACL etc.) and the
rest of the bogons to null0 just to so a general consensus/statistics of
hits on major backbones can be compiled.

keep in mind its not destination addresses that are the problem here, BUT
if it was, on an experiment (not a very smart one) we routed 0/1 to a lab
system inside 701 once in 2001 (as I recall, so before
nimda/code-red/blaster) and recieved +600kpps of garbage traffic as a
result. Trying to acl/analyze/deal-with that flow was almost impossible...
I'm not sure what you want to do with it today when our 'sinkhole' network
is consistently handling +20kpps (5x previous) MORE of random garbage
than 3 weeks ago, before blaster/nachi started to cause more pain :(


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