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RE: more on filtering
From: "Matthew Kaufman" <matthew () eeph com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:28:16 -0800
Well, interestingly, in our network, Juniper makes all of our new core routers. Specifically because Cisco routers were melting down at an unacceptable rate. But there was no such thing as Juniper when we started building (so we still have a lot of Cisco routers in the network), and they don't make DSLAMs or DSL/ATM customer aggregation boxes, so we still get to deal with traffic-dependent performance. And I'm sure we're not the only network in this situation. Should I replace every box in the network with a Juniper and pass the cost along to the customers? (New line item on the bills: "we won't filter worm traffic tax") Even if I had an all-Juniper network, I'd still need to decide what to do about DDOS attacks... Do I just call my circuit vendors and keep adding OC48s until the problem goes away? Matthew Kaufman matthew () eeph com
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of Alex Yuriev Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 6:29 AM To: Matthew Kaufman Cc: 'Greg Maxwell'; 'Chris Parker'; nanog () merit edu Subject: RE: more on filteringDo you actually believe that it was a BAD idea for Cisco to build a router that is more efficient (to the point of being able to handle high-rate interfaces at all) when presented with traffic flows that look like real sessions?Why buy something that works well only sometimes ("we are very efficient when it looks like 'real' traffic" from Cisco) when you can buy ("no one told us that we should have issues with some specific packets") Juniper? Alex
Current thread:
- Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd), (continued)
- Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd) Chris Parker (Oct 30)
- Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd) Alex Yuriev (Oct 30)
- Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd) Chris Parker (Oct 30)
- more on filtering Alex Yuriev (Oct 30)
- Re: more on filtering Chris Parker (Oct 30)
- Re: more on filtering Greg Maxwell (Oct 30)
- RE: more on filtering Matthew Kaufman (Oct 31)
- RE: more on filtering Greg Maxwell (Oct 31)
- RE: more on filtering Matthew Kaufman (Oct 31)
- RE: more on filtering Alex Yuriev (Oct 31)
- RE: more on filtering Matthew Kaufman (Oct 31)
- RE: more on filtering Ray Burkholder (Oct 31)
- Re: more on filtering matt (Oct 30)
- Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd) Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 30)
- Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd) Alex Yuriev (Oct 31)
- Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd) Owen DeLong (Oct 31)
- Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd) Alex Yuriev (Oct 31)
- RE: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd) Matthew Kaufman (Oct 31)
- RE: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd) Alex Yuriev (Oct 31)