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Re: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6?
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck Nether net>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:34:17 -0400
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:16:08PM -0400, Terry Baranski wrote:
Christian Kuhtz wrote:So, since there won't be a flag day, ...Maybe that's the point. The notion of Internet flag days has largely disappeared as the Internet's ubiquity and criticality have increased. There won't be flag days for IPv6, S(o)BGP, BGP-5, etc.
This is why some providers (like Verio for example) have opted for the dual-stack v4, v6 approach. I expect to see a number of other providers move this path as well. There seems to be a lot of movement in the direction of everyone dumping their voice traffic on their internet backbones. I seem to recall seeing Sprint, Telus and other "traditional" telephony providers moving towards what some people call a "converged network". Transporting their voice traffic within IP or MPLS (using stuff like the juniper ccc and cisco equivalents). It's interesting to see the increased reliance on the internet as a network that can survive significant catastrophic events and still provide reliable communications (eg: sept 11, northeast-north-american power outage) for a large set of people. The success of people like Vonage and others in transporting services across the global IP backbones/networks clearly shows that the reliability of the network is sufficent for them to build a business case around it. When something new comes along (eg: bgp-5) there will always be that backward compatability until the edge networks upgrade. What used to be a few years lag for them to upgrade is now increasing as we've clearly seen happen in the software market (both for pc and routers.. how many people are still running win95 or ios 11.1 on their older, perfectly "good" hardware?) - Jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared () puck nether net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine.
Current thread:
- How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Sean Donelan (Oct 21)
- Re: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 21)
- Re: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? William Allen Simpson (Oct 21)
- Re: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Smoot Carl-Mitchell (Oct 22)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Michel Py (Oct 21)
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 21)
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Christopher McCrory (Oct 22)
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 21)
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Kuhtz, Christian (Oct 22)
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Terry Baranski (Oct 22)
- Re: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Jared Mauch (Oct 22)
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Owen DeLong (Oct 22)
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Chris Parker (Oct 22)
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Owen DeLong (Oct 22)
- RE: How long much advanced notice do ISPs need to deploy IPv6? Terry Baranski (Oct 22)