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Re: State Super-DMCA Too True
From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:09:56 -0600
Jamie Lawrence wrote:
I don't necessarily think they are good laws. What it comes down to is this. A person will do whatever they think they can get away with if the punishment is only losing their service. I personally think that ISPs should write in penalty costs for breaking TOS and AUP and set them high enough to scare people into not breaking them. However, history has shown that we instead make it a criminal offense and use that as the way to scare people into doing what is right to begin with.Perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree, if you think those where good laws.
Extending this to criminalizing devices capable of doing NAT, or port forwarding, or (seemingly, in some cases) encryption, or anonymous remailers, is stupid and wrong.I do think that the Act was poorly written and have stated such. There is too much room for abuse of the Act. They tried to incorporate too many things under one umbrella. And ISP should not be grouped with telco or even cable. It has it's own sets of problems, and those problems should be handled uniquely. Combining legislation has never been a good deal.
If you need to criminalize what you should be enforcing by contract, your business has a problem.
People, especially home users, don't fear breach of contract, especially if they feel they might get away with it. They do fear the law and going to jail; reguardless of if it's enforced heavily or not.
-Jack
Current thread:
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True, (continued)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True E.B. Dreger (Mar 29)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Tony Rall (Mar 29)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Simon Lyall (Mar 30)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Dan Hollis (Mar 30)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Rubens Kuhl Jr. (Mar 30)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Mike Lyon (Mar 30)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Jack Bates (Mar 30)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Robert A. Hayden (Mar 30)
- RE: State Super-DMCA Too True todd glassey (Mar 31)
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- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Jack Bates (Mar 30)
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- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Jack Bates (Mar 30)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Dan Hollis (Mar 30)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Jack Bates (Mar 30)
- Re[2]: State Super-DMCA Too True Richard Welty (Mar 30)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Tony Rall (Mar 30)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Peter Galbavy (Mar 31)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Jack Bates (Mar 31)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Richard A Steenbergen (Mar 31)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Jack Bates (Mar 31)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Dan Hollis (Mar 31)
- Re: State Super-DMCA Too True Jack Bates (Mar 31)