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Re: User negligence?


From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen () sprunk org>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:38:20 -0500


Thus spake "Jamie Reid" <Jamie.Reid () mbs gov on ca>
All that user end security devices do is put more non-repudiable
onus on the user, so that when it fails, the service provider is
protected,
and the user is cryptographically guaranteed to be SOL.
... and when the database gets compromised, nobody will believe that
the user isn't responsible, because "The System is Perfect".

I hope this was in jest...  All it will take is one expert witness to show
the system is not perfect and there's hundreds of ways the bank (or even a
smart criminal) could defraud the user.

Biometrics are an excellent example of this. They are a single factor
authentication technology, maybe two factor if there is a PIN,

There are now techniques to copy latent fingerprints off surfaces and
produce counterfeits that have been shown to fool _all_ commercially
available fingerprint gear -- and it costs less than $2 per use.

Biometrics is a failure because there is no shared secret; once a user
submits to a test (either knowingly or not), the validator has all the
information necessary to spoof that person _for the rest of their life_.

S

Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking



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