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Re: Level3 routing issues?


From: alex () yuriev com
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:00:51 -0500 (EST)


Given that the head of one of our three-letter-agencies managed to get
this sort of thing wrong,  what makes you think that Joe Middle-Manager
who's more concerned about fixing a spreadsheet will get it correct?

Because it is not that difficult. A security policy of a little office is
very different from a security policy of a three letter agency. In fact,
fixing a spreadsheet could be mode difficult than implementing a security
policy for an office with 5 computers that are connected to the Internet.

Ahh... but in the case of SQLSlapper, you have a packet coming in to the
PC.. That traffic doesn't get restricted by your hypothetical security
policy, since it's not entering the VPN, and the outbound traffic isn't
either, because it's locally generated.

Umm... Why is outside world talking to your database server without
supervision?

This also means that your security policy needs to be fixed so Outlook is
not permitted to connect to any other mail servers - because otherwise the
user can check their AOL account, pick up a Nimda, and whomp it into the
VPN.

Umm.. Why is your security policy allowing outlook to connect to somewhere
other than your company mail server?

In fact, if you're talking to the VPN and allow any non-VPN connections
*at any time* (even when the VPN isn't active), you have a vulnerability - think
about downloading a file that has a virus that doesn't have a signature from
the vendors yet (like the first 75,000 copies of Nimda that his our mail
server).  Wanna bet that when that VPN connects, there's some shares available
for the virus to attack? ;)

Nope, in fact, the idea "allow everything from inside to out" is the reason
the vast majority of the problems in the policy.

It's not as easy as it looks.

It is very easy. 

Deny everything.
Allow outbound port 80
Allow mail server to 25
Allow ident
If you need netmeeting, allow netmeeting server to other servers.
If you need AIM, allow AIM from workstations to oscar.aol.com and whatever
the name of the other mahine.

I am failing to see a problem.



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