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Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?
From: Avleen Vig <lists-nanog () silverwraith com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:34:03 -0800 (PST)
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
Indeed it does break that. P2P clients: Mostly transfer illegal content. As much as a lot of people love using these, I'm sure most realise they're on borrowed time in their current state. And I'm sure that if they were gone tomorrow, I'm sure they'd be back in another fashion soon.That may be, but its still a problem... I believe http and ftp also transfer illegal content, should we shut them down? Email too? Often there is illegal content in email. :(
Ok before this gets out of hand :-) I wasn't talking about ISP's policing their customers in any way. I was merely stating that the blocking of inbound SYN packets would put a dent in the number of usable zombie DoS clients while at th same time having the side effect of breaking other server-type software such as P2P clients. I also went on to state that if the functionality of such clients really did break as a result of this, the majority of people wouldn't have (too much) of a right to complain as the clients are (mostly) used for illegal traffic. Yes this would probably cause a large loss of business in *some* areas where multiple broadband providers are availible. In other places where a broadband monopoly exists, you would either see a switch to business level contracts or a slight dip in business or people just living with it. For the record I'm not in favour of ISP's (or anyone else for that matter) policing the internet.
Current thread:
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?, (continued)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Avleen Vig (Jan 18)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 18)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Avleen Vig (Jan 19)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Johannes Ullrich (Jan 19)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Rob Thomas (Jan 19)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 20)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Avleen Vig (Jan 20)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Jeff Workman (Jan 20)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Christopher L. Morrow (Jan 20)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Scott Granados (Jan 20)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Avleen Vig (Jan 20)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Vadim Antonov (Jan 20)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? E.B. Dreger (Jan 20)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? todd glassey (Jan 21)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Vadim Antonov (Jan 21)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? todd glassey (Jan 21)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Andy Dills (Jan 22)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? todd glassey (Jan 22)
- RE: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Al Rowland (Jan 22)
- Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Petri Helenius (Jan 22)
- RE: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks? Chris Parker (Jan 22)