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Re: US-Asia Peering
From: Jeff Barrows <jsb () fireflynetworks net>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:05:33 -0500 (EST)
- Transit providers who came to the exchange point for the purpose of picking up transit sales. - If the exchange point operator is the one carrying the traffic, they lose for competing with their customers in the previous bullet; they will have taken the first steps on the path from being an exchange point operator to being a network-plus-colo provider (where they'll compete with the network-plus-colo providers just coming out of bankruptcy with all their debt scraped off).
i'm still amazed that nobody has brought up the fact that a couple of the larger colo/exchange operators that claimed they wouldn't compete with their IP customers are indeed selling IP transit-- intentionally undercutting the prices of the providers that colo'd there to sell transit partly because the colo/exchange operator kept telling the world that they would never compete with their customers in the IP transit space. clearly, interconnecting their exchange points to create a richly- connected Internet 'core' is a natural progression if their customers don't complain too loudly. not that it's a bad long-term plan-- but I do agree with Stephen in that it'll be tough for them to survive against the debt-free big boys if they emerge as clear network-plus-colo competitors and lose the few remaining bits of their 'neutral' facade. - jsb -- Jeff Barrows, President Firefly Networks http://FireflyNetworks.net +1 703 287 4221 Voice +1 703 288 4003 Facsimile An Advanced Internet Engineering & Professional Services Organization
Current thread:
- US-Asia Peering William B. Norton (Jan 02)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen Stuart (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Jeff Barrows (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering David Diaz (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Jared Mauch (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Bill Woodcock (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Joe Provo (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen Stuart (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Jeff Barrows (Jan 03)
- Re: US-Asia Peering William B. Norton (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Bill Woodcock (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen J. Wilcox (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Randy Bush (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering William B. Norton (Jan 09)
- Re: US-Asia Peering Stephen Stuart (Jan 03)