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RE: Weird networking issue.


From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () telecomplete co uk>
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:30:45 +0000 (GMT)


I think we all agree that autonegotiation is evil, and should be avoided
whenever possible.  When you are looking for the root cause of the errors on

I don't agree. I have seen more problems generated by incompetence in 
trying to fix duplex/speed, than I have seen problems generated by autoneg 
not working properly.

I am always amazed by the fact that very few people out there know that 
you have to lock duplex at BOTH ENDS of any given link for it to work 
properly.

So thats human error not a problem with using forced settings, eliminate the
human error and I think you'll see forced always works, autoneg sometimes
works. (For future reference dont employ incompetent people to run your networks
folks!)

Generally, in a LAN environment with good quality switches and good
network cards, autoneg works just fine. Yes, with 10/100 meg
fiber/converters converters you should definately lock duplex, but in most
other cases I recommend to leave the duplex setting to auto.

Heh. I dont want to look at examples or find out what your experience is but in
mine across a wide range of vendors its prone to problems.

Yes, cisco routers are notoriously bad at doing autoneg, but I blame that
on cisco and not on autoneg. The el cheapo $50 desktop switches seem to
hack autoneg just fine.

Have you looked at what autoneg is.. its horrible, a hack to help out the above
incompetent engineers who dont know how to force duplex. 

.. well thats my opinion on the matter anyhow :)

Steve


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