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Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator
From: Bill Woodcock <woody () pch net>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 17:01:36 -0800 (PST)
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Leo Bicknell wrote: > 1) Storing natural gas is significantly harder (both in the > containers and permiting) than Diesel. Having done both, I would say that gas is much simpler from a practical point of view, and a little worse from a permitting point of view. I'd rather go through the one-time hassle of the permitting rather than the continuing hassle of maintaining diesel facilities, any day. > It also has less energy density, so it takes more space. That's true, though it's never been a sufficient difference to be problematic for me. > 2) Having natural gas trucked in, rather than delivered via > pipeline is also extremely difficult... > It's very easy to get "guaranteed response time" diesel contracts > I'd love to know if anyone has even attempted that with Natural Gas > delivery by truck. Yeah, it's no problem. Certainly no different than deisel in a metro area, and much easier than diesel in rural areas. I've never had to ask for a rush delivery, but I've always been offered delivery the same day I've called, and I believe the contract guarantees four-hour deliveries when we need it. My tank is a 96-hour supply, so that's fine for me. > 4) In larger sizes, Diesel gensets are _cheap_. The only difference between the diesel and gas genset is the carburetor, which is just different, not more expensive. -Bill
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- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator David Lesher (Apr 04)
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