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RE: no ip forged-source-address
From: "Charles D Hammonds" <hammonds () attens com>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:56:54 -0800
analogy games are fun, but it boils down to this... If I know the real source of an attack, I can stop it within minutes. I'm sure that my customers appreciate that fact. Noone will ever completely stop attacks, the point is to minimize their impact. that is my concern as a service provider. also, from the victim's perspective, you have someone to hold accountable. Charles -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of Christopher L. Morrow Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:47 PM To: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu Cc: Christopher L. Morrow; nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: no ip forged-source-address On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:21:00 GMT, "Christopher L. Morrow" said:I'm confused.. its still a DoS attack, eh??It's the difference between: A) Going out to your car at the end of a too-long day and finding a broken taillight. B) Going out to your car at the end of a too-long day and finding a broken taillight and a business card under the windshield wiper that has "Sorry - call me and I'll pay for it" written on the back.
I think the spoofed source filtering is more a red-herring than anything else. Its not the fix for anything related to this problem of attacks on the internet. Spoofed or non, I can forward 1,000,000pps at your network and it will die (most times). This is like trying to fix a rotten decayed tooth with trident.
Current thread:
- Re: no ip forged-source-address, (continued)
- Re: no ip forged-source-address variable () ednet co uk (Oct 30)
- RE: no ip forged-source-address Tony Hain (Oct 30)
- RE: no ip forged-source-address Daniel Senie (Oct 30)
- Re: no ip forged-source-address variable () ednet co uk (Oct 30)
- Re: no ip forged-source-address Michael Lamoureux (Oct 30)
- Re: no ip forged-source-address Daniel Senie (Oct 30)
- Re: no ip forged-source-address Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 30)
- RE: no ip forged-source-address Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 30)
- Re: no ip forged-source-address Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 30)
- Re: no ip forged-source-address Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 30)
- RE: no ip forged-source-address Charles D Hammonds (Oct 30)
- RE: no ip forged-source-address Christopher L. Morrow (Oct 30)
- RE: no ip forged-source-address Randy Bush (Oct 31)
- Re: no ip forged-source-address David Howe (Oct 31)