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Re: iBGP next hop and multi-access media


From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () telecomplete co uk>
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 22:31:04 +0100 (BST)



No its not possible to say you can reach the subnet on the same media...

IP maps to the [Ethernet] with ARP, but before a packet is passed down to MAC
via ARP it is routed and if there is no route to the connected ethernet then it
will necessarily need to use the other router.

You must have the route before you can look at passing it to the media..

Steve

On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Ralph Doncaster wrote:

A and B are connected via the same multi-access media.  It is technically
possible for B to tell A "you can reach 172.16.16.0/24 on the same media
that you receive this update on".  However what people seem to be saying
is that there is no dynamic routing protocol that implements this.

Ralph Doncaster
principal, IStop.com 

On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:


I dont understand this..

A wants to get to a network which it [thinks it] is not connected to, the only
route is via B. therefore you must advertise the route from B with next hop B

the only possible way (at least in ethernet IP) that A can send direct onto the
ethernet segment is if it is connected to the other (172.16) network and if
youre not willing to do that then your solution is not possible

Steve

On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Ralph Doncaster wrote:


Background: 
Router A and B are connected via a common ethernet segment 1. Router A
uses 10.10.10.1/30, and Router B uses 10.10.10.2/30. Router B also has
another subnet configured for ethernet segment 1; 172.16.16.0/24.

When I setup a situation like the above, with Router B advertising the
172.16.16.0/24 to router A, router A sees a next hop of 10.10.10.2.  This
is not good since packets from A going to the 172.16.16 subnet get sent to
Router B, which then ARPs the desitnation, instead of just being ARPed by
router A.

I don't want to turn on ICMP redirects on B since they're insecure and
ugly.  I've also made sure I'm not using next-hop self.  Is there a way to
make this work?

Ralph Doncaster
principal, IStop.com 









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