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Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <ssprunk () cisco com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:32:10 -0600
Thus spake "Johannes Ullrich" <jullrich () euclidian com>
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/19/nyregion/19FUEL.html...While almost everyone on this list knows which building is the subject of the article, we can discuss the issue without discussing the particular building. On-site fuel storage is one of those double-edge swords.The article is comparing the relatively 'inert' diesel fuel to the aircraft fuel that caused the devastation at the WTC. Did the authors of this article ever hear about heating oil tanks?
Jet fuel ak.a kerosene is essentially the same thing as diesel. The only reason it's 'inert' is that it's too dense to explode like gasoline. You have to mix in oxidizers (e.g. fertilizer) or atomize it mechanically (e.g. BLU-82) before ignition if you want a big boom. The problem with the WTC was actually the lack of a big boom -- the slow-burning fire lasted long enough to weaken the structure. If there had been a couple tons of fertilizer on those planes, you would have seen a massive fireball but the buildings would have stayed up, just like in 1993. Not sure how this is relevant to NANOG, but I find it interesting. S
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- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address, (continued)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Alex Rubenstein (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Stephen Sprunk (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Barry Shein (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address David Charlap (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Vadim Antonov (Nov 19)
- RE: Even the New York Times withholds the address Eric Germann (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Alex Rubenstein (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Jim Hickstein (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address David Lesher (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Stephen Sprunk (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address David Lesher (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Scott Granados (Nov 19)
- OT: WAS: Even the New York Times withholds the address Al Rowland (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Petri Helenius (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Jim Hickstein (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Daniel Senie (Nov 19)
- Re: Even the New York Times withholds the address Allan Liska (Nov 19)