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Re: Arbor Networks DoS defense product
From: Dan Hollis <goemon () anime net>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Dragos Ruiu wrote:
Some people are get all hyper and complain. Which is silly imho. If you don't like it, stop your network from responding to it.
Thats exactly what we plan to do with BGP blackholes and landmines.
Don't bitch and whine if your equipment is silly and leaks info. It's not the world's problem to compensate for _your_ inferior network architecture or shoddily designed network hardware.
Then you shouldnt be whining about a BGP blackhole system.
Portscanning by no means proves "intent". Or should provoke hostile reaction.
Blackholing isnt hostile its defensive.
But then again I'm of the radical opinion that if your host is compromised it is your fault for not taking appropriate precautions on inbound filters or gateways.
The blackholing is the response to networks which cant be bothered to clean up their compromised hosts. Youre ranting against the wrong target im afraid. Please go back and read the thread from the beginning.
I can't help it if your host does funny things when I send them funny packets.... :-)
Why are you sending funny packets? -Dan -- [-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
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