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Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet
From: "Rachel K. Warren" <rachel () plur net>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:03:15 -0800
On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:07:06PM +0000, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
Why should they talk to you? You're not a paying customer.. I get very upset when customers of customers start phoning us up..
This really bothers me. So, if you are starting to have a major outage because of a configuration change, or a circuit goes down, or whatever else might happen, and the first person who contacts you is not a customer, you are going to ignore it, especially if your network tools haven't picked it up yet? In another lifetime ago I was working at a network where Gamer Tickets (people playing Everquest and those types of games) would sometimes see the problem before our network tools picked it up. The Gamers were not direct customers, but we worked on their problems, because a portion of the time there actually was a problem with the network that should be fixed immediately before our Big Customers Who Paid The Company Lots of Money started to call and want SLA or threaten to (and sometimes did) go to another provider. You can also think of it in the respect of potentially making more money in the long run. If you provide some service to a non-customer and their upstream doesn't provide any, there is a good chance these non-customers turn into customers by purchasing service directly from you instead. Rachel -- When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us. - Alexander Graham Bell
Current thread:
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Mark E. Mallett (Mar 28)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Forrest W. Christian (Mar 29)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 29)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet batz (Mar 29)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Forrest W. Christian (Mar 29)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Forrest W. Christian (Mar 29)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 29)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Rachel K. Warren (Mar 30)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 31)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 31)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Forrest W. Christian (Mar 29)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet measl (Mar 29)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Anne Marcel Roorda (Mar 29)
- Re: Help with bad announcement from UUnet Stephen J. Wilcox (Mar 29)