RE: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking

["Derek Samford" <dsamford () fastduck net>]

I second that. If I see any of my clients having any sort of malicious
activity directed at them, then there is no chance of me allowing their
traffic through. I would be more than happy to send all their traffic to
packet hell. Large corporations do not get any special consideration if
it comes down to the stability of my network vs. receiving their
traffic.

Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of
James Thomason
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:10 PM
To: Marshall Eubanks
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking



Would malicious actions on the part of copyright holders violate the
AUP of most networks?  Or are service providers more willing to tolerate
denial of service attacks by large corporations than say, spam?

If this legislation is passed, they certainly will earn Null0 on mine.

Regards, 
James Thomason


On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Marshall Eubanks wrote:

> Thought this would be considered on-topic as guess who would have
> to clean up the resulting messes...
>
> Regards
> Marshall Eubanks
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> From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
> Subject: FC: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking
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> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:29:35 -0400
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> http://news.com.com/2100-1023-945923.html?tag=politech
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>     Could Hollywood hack your PC?
>     By Declan McCullagh
>     July 23, 2002, 4:45 PM PT
>
>     WASHINGTON--Congress is about to consider an entertainment
>     industry proposal that would authorize copyright holders to
disable
>     PCs used for illicit file trading.
>
>     A draft bill seen by CNET News.com marks the boldest political
effort
>     to date by record labels and movie studios to disrupt peer-to-peer
>     networks that they view as an increasingly dire threat to their
bottom
>     line.
>
>     Sponsored by Reps. Howard Berman, D-Calif., and Howard Coble,
R-N.C.,
>     the measure would permit copyright holders to perform nearly
unchecked
>     electronic hacking if they have a "reasonable basis" to believe
that
>     piracy is taking place. Berman and Coble plan to introduce the
10-page
>     bill this week.
>
>     The legislation would immunize groups such as the Motion Picture
>     Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of
>     America from all state and federal laws if they disable, block or
>     otherwise impair a "publicly accessible peer-to-peer network."
>
>     Anyone whose computer was damaged in the process must receive the
>     permission of the U.S. attorney general before filing a lawsuit,
and a
>     suit could be filed only if the actual monetary loss was more than
>     $250.
>
>     According to the draft, the attorney general must be given
complete
>     details about the "specific technologies the copyright holder
intends
>     to use to impair" the normal operation of the peer-to-peer
network.
>     Those details would remain secret and would not be divulged to the
>     public.
>
>     The draft bill doesn't specify what techniques, such as viruses,
>     worms, denial-of-service attacks, or domain name hijacking, would
be
>     permissible. It does say that a copyright-hacker should not delete
>     files, but it limits the right of anyone subject to an intrusion
to
>     sue if files are accidentally erased.
>
>     [...]
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