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Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8...
From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:52:38 -0500
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:30:28PM -0500, Ralph Doncaster wrote:
People depend on ARIN's IP assignments being widely routable. When 2 different ARIN clients pay the same amount of money for leasing an IP block, the "goods" they receive should be of the same quality.
You are under the delusion tht ARIN is selling goods. If they were, we'd all have something to complain about. ARIN is selling you 5 bytes, a couple records for contact info, a whois server, a template processing system which takes 3 days to work, and meetings in tropical locations (for $2500+, sounds fair right? :P). Under this logic you would like them to sell you low ASNs because high ones don't get much respect and are therefore defective? How about refusing to take 3.1.33.7 because it got spoofed and/or packeted a lot? ARIN should make a good faith effort to hand out registrations which are going to be usable, but it is not their job to make sure noone else on the internet dislikes your IP. Besides, the policies usually follow ARIN, not the other way around. People design prefix length filters around the RIR allocation sizes, not arbitrary numbers the expect the RIR's to follow. People unfilter prefixes when they start getting allocated, not because they feel like they should so ARIN can allocate from it. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
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- RE: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Barry Raveendran Greene (Dec 06)
- RE: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Sean Donelan (Dec 06)
- RE: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Alec H. Peterson (Dec 06)
- RE: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Alec H. Peterson (Dec 06)
- RE: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Sean Donelan (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Jared Mauch (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Jonathan Disher (Dec 07)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Richard A Steenbergen (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Ralph Doncaster (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... jlewis (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Richard A Steenbergen (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... David Schwartz (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... E.B. Dreger (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Rob Thomas (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Sean Donelan (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Leo Bicknell (Dec 06)
- RE: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... alex (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Joe Provo (Dec 06)
- Re: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8... Joe Abley (Dec 06)