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RE: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org


From: "Al Rowland" <alan_r1 () corp earthlink net>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:25:17 -0700


Then the question becomes, "Is running your own mail server worth <some
registration cost>?" Very similar to the "I want my own special part of
the Internet (web server)." Okay, pay your $70 for two years (or
whatever).

BTW, just curious, who announces your MX records?

Best regards,
_________________________
Alan Rowland



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of
Larry Rosenman
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:39 PM
To: Derek Samford
Cc: 'Mark Segal'; 'Robert Blayzor'; nanog () nanog org
Subject: RE: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org



What about individuals that run their own mail servers?  (E.G. me).? 



On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 14:28, Derek Samford wrote:

I really like this. A sort of IRR for mail servers. Maybe when 
registered it could even check if the server was an open relay, and 
not allow those servers to be registered until properly configured. 
Any thoughts?

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf
Of
Mark Segal
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 3:12 PM
To: 'Robert Blayzor'; nanog () nanog org
Subject: RE: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org


It's almost to the point to where mail servers need their own 
"registrar", sort of the way domains are tracked now, track mail 
servers.  Give mail server admins the option to accept mail from 
registered mail servers only or from any mail server.  Of course 
there would need to be a ramp up period, like six months to a 
year, to make sure all of your mail servers are registered.  And 
of course one should only be able to register mail servers if the 
IP space is actually SWIP to them.  If the IP space is NOT SWIP, 
it would need to be registered by the customer ISP or via owners 
rwhois server.  Just my $.02; for what it's worth....

Really good idea (no sarcasm, I actually like it).. But what stops 
spammers from registering their mail server?..Ie..
    1) Get a dsl account
    2) Ips get swipped to you
    3) Register the server
    4) SPAM
    5) Apologize, get a second chance
    6) get booted off
    7) Call the next ISP with a zero install
    8) Rinse and repeat.


Regards,
Mark

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Mark Segal
Director, Data Services
Futureway Communications Inc.
Tel: (905)326-1570

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Phone: +1 972-414-9812                 E-Mail: ler () lerctr org
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