nanog mailing list archives
RE: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at
From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles () skynet be>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:47:46 +0200
At 11:54 AM +0200 2002/08/29, Jeroen Massar wrote:
But as long as you live that's better than letting them have their ways now is it.
It's still the death of a thousand cuts. Yes, it buys us time, but we have to use that time wisely to get real socio-legal solutions. And we have to get people to agree that the only thing it really does is buy us time, so that we can get real socio-legal solutions faster -- hopefully, in time to save the patient.
Now stop the anal-ogies and come up with something that will _stop_ the crackdealing.
I could say the same to you.
b) A few weeks ago I counted over 200 open relays simultaneously spewing the same spam at us.Thats where RBL's are for, they close them up, if you had used an RBL your box would simply deny those relays at all, block them IP based and bingo no spewing from them.
That's assuming that all those open relays were on one of the blacklists. Even then, they'd still hammer his machines with connections.
Because sooner or later you can't see out the grated windows any more or get some air through them, and you're afraid to go outside...Never been in the city (those places where more than 100k people live) now have you ?
Yeah, I have. Those people still leave their apartments on occasion. -- Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles () skynet be> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++)
Current thread:
- RE: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org), (continued)
- RE: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org) Barry Shein (Aug 27)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Paul Vixie (Aug 26)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Barry Shein (Aug 27)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Paul Vixie (Aug 27)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Brad Knowles (Aug 27)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Andy Dills (Aug 28)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Paul Vixie (Aug 28)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Brad Knowles (Aug 28)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Barry Shein (Aug 28)
- RE: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Jeroen Massar (Aug 29)
- RE: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Brad Knowles (Aug 29)
- RE: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Barry Shein (Aug 30)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org) John M. Brown (Aug 26)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Aug 26)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Paul Vixie (Aug 26)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Patrick (Aug 26)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Paul Vixie (Aug 26)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Patrick (Aug 26)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Scott A Crosby (Aug 29)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at Paul Vixie (Aug 29)
- Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at David Van Duzer (Aug 26)