RE: Qwest Transit

["Daniel Golding" <dgolding () sockeye com>]

Hmm. There is alot of speculation that their network is largely subsidized
by their Yellow Pages franchise. Let your fingers do the walking, et al.

- Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Shawn Solomon
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:24 PM
To: Andy Dills
Cc: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Qwest Transit



Andy,

Qwest is handing out "bargain" deals like hotcakes these days... But
before you get lured in ask yourself..

are you willing to buy from other non tier-1 providers?  It isn't hard to
find pipe under 50/meg these days if you stroke your local sales monkey
properly.

Also, look around at other folks like Sprint.. they are right in line with
Q-mess pricing and offer quite a bit more for it.

And finally, you have to wonder how long Q-tip can offer LD and circuit
switched pricing at a loss before dragging the rest of the company down
with it.

Lets face it, the packet side of the house was always a bit
shabby and it seems that all they have done is let it age.....

IMHO, you can find better price, better service and better quality in
other places.


--

 Shawn Solomon      Senior State Networks Engineer
 Indiana Telecommunications Network & IHETS INDnet
 317.263.8875      www.ind.net    fx: 317.263.8831


On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Andy Dills wrote:

> Ok, we have an opportunity to get Qwest bandwidth amazingly cheap.  I
> can't disclose the details (NDA), but bottom line is it looks like the
> cheapest in the industry and because there is no loop involved, it could
> be one hell of a deal on a ds3.
>
> I'm not a fan of Qwest, traditionally. I've had some (somewhat famous)
> run-ins with their sales people, and I personally know plenty of companies
> who over several years have had tons of complaints with various aspects of
> their organization.
>
> However, I'm not interested in all of that at the moment. I need to
> evaulate, without all of my longheld bias, whether or not Qwest can
> provide quality DS3 transit. The traditional knock on Qwest is that
> they're an over-built under-peered network with poor support. But a lot of
> time has passed, so surely they would have addressed the peering issues by
> now? I can deal with poor support...the circuit is a simple cross connect,
> and our bgp filter changes are fairly uncommon.
>
> Can anybody speak positively or negatively about the quality of Qwest
> transit? We ordered a metered ds3 for a backup circuit, but with
> the pricing I'm seeing, I'm really tempted to localpref and prepend our
> announcements such that most of the traffic flows through Qwest. I plan on
> trying it out regardless, but I'd like to hear from the list first.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
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