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RE: references on non-central authority network protocols


From: Bruce Williams <brucewms () pacbell net>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:22:56 -0700


How does this route? The TSP ( traveling salesman problem ) model seems
better than geo based models.  Possibly a dynamic public/private key - the
host provides part, the routers adds a wrapper of based on it's public key,
and routes based on a dynamic traveling salesman solution using current
network metrics. Blue Sky!

"Current network metrics" - the gnutella type P2P have a ping problem
keeping this info current enough, this is the heart of the P2P network
problem. They are evolving to the use of dynamic assignment of "super peers"
with other hosts as "leaf nodes" based on bandwidth to lessen this problem.
If anyone wants to email me offlist, I will give a number of references to
really good work in this area.


Bruce Williams
Benchmarks: Engineering wants to see how fast they can get the wheels to
spin on a car.  Operations wants to know how fast the car will go.  These
are different.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Tony Hain
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Stephen Sprunk; Scott A Crosby
Cc: Patrick Thomas; nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: references on non-central authority network protocols



Stephen Sprunk wrote:
Interesting idea though.  Perhaps someone will write an i-d
on autonomous
numbering for IPv6.

RFC 3041 & http://www.tml.hut.fi/~pnr/publications/cam2001.pdf


Jasper Wallace wrote:
Location - either distribute all the addresses evenly over
the planet or try
to map to population density.

(the higher your density of sites, the more accurate your
coordinates need
to be).

you could aggregate addresses by doing something like:

2 hemispheres

36 'triangular' chunks spaced every 10 degrees latitude.

then split up in longditudernal stripes.

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hain-ipv6-pi-addr-02.txt


but i think you'd be better allocation on the basis of
population density.

How exactly you'd make the social and economic changes to get
to a system
like this vs, the telcos/isps we have now is probably more
trouble than it's
worth ;-P


http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hain-ipv6-pi-addr-use-02.txt


Tony






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