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Re: Lack of Security
From: "Joel Baker" <lucifer () lightbearer com>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:16:55 -0600
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:42:04AM -0600, Matthew S. Hallacy wrote:
Unfortunately in places such as MSP (Minneapolis/St. Paul International) you enter the building, the ticket windows are the first thing you see, and everything else is beyond the metal detectors, (Food, Drink, Gift shops, and the restrooms iirc) the only airport I can recall that is setup properly for the new regulations would be Kansas City where they have metal detectors and x-ray machines at _every gate_ enclosed with glass partitions.
Having flown in and out of KCI (er, MCI, er... anyway) many times, there is one additional feature - deboarding passengers leave the gate area *immediately*, behind a cordon, and after only 20 feet or so are outside that glass wall - so there is a natural arrangement to encourage people *not* to wait in the cordoned gate area for pickups. A few folks do drop offs there, and go in to wait with departures, but while this is permitted, it is actively discouraged, and most folks appear to just stand in line and wait for the checkpoint with whomever they're with, then hug and break off rather than pass the checkpoint. Oh, and because it's clear glass, you can still stand outside and "keep an eye" on folks (small children, etc), or watchin for someone deboarding. Between SJC, SFO, OAK, Las Vegas, Reno, SLC, O'Hare, Boston, Hartford, and Kansas City, the *only* airport designed at all rationally to separate the final gate travellers from those accompanying but not flying, and provide everything else reasonably, was Kansas City. Unfortunately, the price is fairly direct - you cannot get by with 3-4 "stations" of 2-3 detectors each, and manning only 1-2 of those. Each and every gate must be separated and have it's own sniffers, detectors, and security inspection. The manpower cost is increased significantly (though the gate areas are not staffed unless it is within about 1.5 hours prior to a departure from that gate). And most current airports could be retro- fitted to accomodate this, though it certainly wouldn't be easy in some of them. But if the restriction remains in place, it will probably be demanded by travellers. -- *************************************************************************** Joel Baker System Administrator - lightbearer.com lucifer () lightbearer com http://www.lightbearer.com/~lucifer
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