RE: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question

["Deepak Jain" <deepak () ai net>]

Lucent's Optistar line is available in OC12 and OC48 versions.

Deepak Jain
AiNET

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu]On Behalf Of
Mr. James W. Laferriere
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 1:02 PM
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer
Cc: Joseph T. Klein; nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question




        Hello All,  Darn I hate this , But I have to chime in here .

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> On Friday 28 September 2001, at 20 h 6,
> "Joseph T. Klein" <jtk () titania net> wrote:
> > Yeah right. I suggest you look at real world loaded 7200s. They have
> > problems with full routing tables.
> I don't know, I don't use Ciscos and I don't regret it.
> > > Any Taiwan-made PC can swallow much more. The limit is not clear but is
> > > certainly far away from us.

> > I want to you to put a couple of channelized DS-3s, an ATM OC12c,
> > and a POS OC48c to your backbone plus all the BGP peers you can sign
> > up at AADS on a PC.
> Come on, I did not say that a PC can handle everything, just that it can
> handle easily 100k routes.
        It is now quite possible to have a 64bit pci system with an oc-48
        card in it .  Check around folks they are there .  Not cheap at
        all but available .  The chennelised cards may be a little harder
        to find but I'd even bet they're out there already .  I do know
        the oc-12c cards are .  Try Marconi or InterPhase or ...

> I don't know the limit but neither do you (did you try the funny
experiment
> you suggest or are you just guessing?) The only thing I'm sure, because I
run
> it daily, is that 100k routes is not a lot for today's machines.
        Joe May darned well have tried ;-) .  But I and maybe a few others
        may even know that the Larger optical cards are available .  I
        sure have not seen any mention on this list about them .  Or any
        other lists for that matter .  Twyl ,  JimL

> > The black and white simplicity expressed by people on this forum is
> > unbelievable.
> The ability of some people to continue the discussion about the "routing
table
> explosion" legend as if we were still in a world of 64 mega-bytes routers
> (with a Motorola 68020) is unbelievable.


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