RE: Fwd: Re: Digital Island sponsors DoS attempt?

["Borchers, Mark" <mborchers () splitrock net>]

If ping testing scales as badly as you suggest, all of
these products need to be yanked off the market asap.
Putting such tools in the hands of millions of end users
is certainly more of a threat than their use by network
engineers.

http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/pingtools/


> On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Jonas Luster wrote:
>
> Jonas,
>
> It's one every 20 seconds from -one- ISP.  What happens when 
> thousands of ISPs begin offering this service?
>
> a) more people are waken up at 3am by tripped IDS systems
>
> b) more people filter all icmp and break the internet
>
> c) more people have to add more acls to their routers to 
> prevent pushing
> garbage as much as possible at the core, driving up cost and cpu
>
>
> This service should clearly be "opt-in".
>
> Also, I believe the second comment made on this thread was 
> regarding the
> idea that we implicitly give people permission to do this 
> sort of thing
> by connecting to the internet (or per our sla/whatever).  I 
> surely do not
> give people permission to attack my network, why is this any 
> different?
> Intentions?
>
> rgds,
>
> Adam